來源：mjjcn.com
音樂界的傳奇人物邁克爾·杰克遜開始了他新的振奮人心的事業征程--他正打算成為一個好萊塢的傳奇。不久前，他在倫敦接受了英國雜志《Gold Girl》的獨家專訪。
邁克爾·杰克遜是“流行音樂之王”，他創作了史上銷量最高的專輯，他的舞姿和音樂風靡了全球--從約翰內斯堡到雅加達，從倫敦到紐約。但他依然充滿了神秘。這個從和兄弟組成的杰克遜 Five樂隊中成長起來的童星，來自一個極具天賦的音樂世家，雖最年幼卻取得了兄弟姐妹中最輝煌的單飛成績。他是世界上為數不多的由世界著名童星轉變為世界成人巨星的幾個經典范例之一；而現在他又在重塑自我，想在電影領域打出一片天地。
盡管他有著巨大的名氣，并事實上早在其剛會走路時就一直在表演、創作與排演，杰克遜卻始終羞于現身公眾。無論何時他的公開露面也許都會引來無數的歌迷和攝影師，但他卻是一個非常注重個人隱私的人，只愿和自己的家庭呆在他的夢幻宅邸--加州的Neverland牧場。在這次難得的采訪中，他和Magdalena（《Gold Girl》雜志記者）親切自然地談起了名氣、作童星的壓力、對媒體的看法和他未來的電影作品。
邁克爾·杰克遜（以下簡稱MJ）：也許是以上的所有，因為我熱愛娛樂業也將永遠熱愛下去。我自愿充當節奏的奴隸，因為舞蹈是交響伴奏和其樂聲的最佳闡釋。你看，你化成了音符、化成了貝司、化成了你聽到的任何聲響，你以動作舞動出來。但我盡量不過分沉溺于這種只在音樂中忘乎一切的狀態。過去有太多偉大的藝人因此在孤獨、沮喪和崩潰中了結束自己的舞臺生涯。我總是告誡自己永不走上那一條道路，我要盡最大努力學會商業運營方面的知識來支持自己、用我的錢去投資或儲蓄。誰知道明天會怎樣？你需要財務上的安全來保證自己。
GG：你愿意被作為一個偉大藝人被人們銘記嗎?
MJ：我熱愛電影，熱愛藝術--而一個建筑師也是個藝人，那建造過山車的家伙也是個藝人。他清楚在哪兒建斜坡、在哪兒給你最大的期望……“哦，上帝”，當你來到頂端再直沖而下時，你一定會興奮得沖口而出。這和構思準備一場表演或舞蹈是一回事。
GG：作為世界上最富盛名的巨星之一，你是否感到很大的壓力呢？
MJ：我不管在哪兒都很難真正擁有自己的私人空間。世上最痛苦的事莫過于此。用一個不當的比喻來說的話，你就仿佛生活在供人觀賞魚缸里，真的。我嘗試偽裝……但現在人們都能識破它們了，太難太難了。
GG：有些什么樣的偽裝呢？
MJ：蝠裝、假牙、墨鏡、非洲發式、整容術、化裝術，等等。我只是為了以此坐在觀眾席中去體會一個普通觀眾看演出的感受。
GG：他們認出你了嗎?
MJ：有時是的。一開始還不會。然后他們就開始瞪著我看。于是我穿上那套行頭，但他們仍看透偽飾……你知道，女孩子們都很機靈。騙一個女孩子絕對比騙一個男孩子難。女人能識破這一切。因為她們知道你行動的方式、走路的姿態和手勢。我常聽見她們說，“快看他揮手的樣子”，或“快看他走路的模樣”，然后我想，“噢，不會吧”。
GG：如果你能在倫敦隱形一天，你會干什么？
MJ：哦，小家伙。我該給誰一巴掌呢？讓我想想（笑）……我想我會找到一個小報記者，然后用太空步踢他屁股一腳。我真的想把他們從圍著我轉悠的單車上踹下來，我真的想，還有把他們手上的照相機扔掉。他們真是煩人。我首先就找他們算帳。他們煩得讓你發瘋，而你又甩不掉他們。真可怕。
GG：誰對你的影響最大，誰和你比較相似？
MJ：也許是沃爾特•迪斯尼吧；因為我從很小時開始就在成人的世界里成長。我在舞臺上長大。我在夜總會里長大。我7、8歲時就在夜總會表演了。我看過艷舞表演。我見過打架鬧事。我看見人們互相醉嘔在身上。我看見成人們如豬一般蠢蠢欲動。這就是為什么現在我很討厭夜總會的原因。我不愿去那種地方--我已經待過了。這也是為什么我現在要補償我失去的童年。所以當你到我家做客的時候，你會看到我的跑馬場、電影院和動物園。我愛動物--比如大象啊、長頸鹿啊、獅子啊、熊啊、各種各樣的蛇啊。我要做那些小時侯從來沒機會去做的事情，因為我們不曾經歷。我們沒有圣誕節。我們沒有睡衣晚會。我們沒有上過學，我們只在巡回演出時上過私立學校。我幾乎沒在公立學校里待過。我們試過兩個星期但根本沒用。太難。作為一個童星長大是十分艱難的。很少有人能從童星成功地過渡為成人巨星。這也真的很難啊。我和秀蘭•鄧波兒有過相似的經歷。我在舊金山與她見過面，我坐在她桌邊大哭起來。她問，“出什么事了，邁克爾?”我說“我愛你。我想有更多時間呆在你身邊。”她接著說道，“你是我們中的一員，對嗎？”我說，“是的，我是。”其他人不解，“你們在說什么？”她說，“邁克爾知道我的意思。”我的確清楚地知道她的意思--一個童星在成年后想要繼續取得成功是無比困難的。當你是童星時，人們就不想讓你長大。他們想要你永遠都這么小。他們不想你變成以后的那個樣子。太難太難啊。
GG：多告訴我一些關于你對主題樂園的興趣--是它們的什么吸引了你？
MJ：我對主題公園最情有獨鐘的一點是--根據我多次環游世界得出絕佳判斷來說--我熱衷于看著人們就這樣帶著各自的家庭走到一起來并玩得盡興開懷。這真的能讓大家關系更加和睦。我去是為玩，也是為了學習。多數公園我都是在它們關門后才去的，因為我不能在正常開放時間去。 那時的它們真像個鬼城。
GG：我聽說你計劃在拉斯•維加斯蓋個主題公園？
MJ：我在拉斯•維加斯有不少項目，我認為我所做的一切對當地的人口增長做出了貢獻。因為當我還是小孩子的時候--不會超過8歲--我和哥哥們就想去拉斯•維加斯，那時小孩們不允許進入賭場。于是我們一般只能整夜呆在自己的房間里，在別人都在賭桌上盡興時，我們卻無聊透頂。當時只有一處地方為孩子們開放，叫做“Circus Circus（大馬戲團）”。那是家旅館，他們的主要特色是有小丑表演，那里還有雜耍藝人和騎獨輪車的黑猩猩。在我長大一點后我們便在常在拉斯•維加斯玩--我們在那兒作了很多場演出--我好好思考了一番說道，“真不公平，這兒沒什么給孩子們玩的東西。”于是我開始為某些旅館老板構思出一系列的點子。現在那兒就像一個以家庭為主題的度假王國，真的！
GG：誰是你最喜歡的人？
MJ：我熱愛那些為世界和人類的快樂和幸福畢盡精力的那些人--從沃爾特•迪斯尼到甘地到愛迪生再到馬丁•路德•金。他們是光明的使者，是真正關心兒童、帶來家庭和睦溫欣和愛的人。這也是我一直盡力想在我的音樂和歌曲中談及的。如果你親臨過我的演唱會或現場表演，你會看到200,000人舉著蠟燭一起擺動，說著，“我們想要治愈這個世界”和“我們愛你”。我從俄羅斯到德國到波蘭到非洲再到美國一路看來。我們都是一致的。人們都為演出中的那些動人之處而流淚、憤怒和感傷。
GG：弗雷德•阿斯泰爾是你的朋友嗎？
MJ：是的。他是我鄰居。原來我天天都騎著我的小摩托去看望他。當我還是小孩時他就常常告訴我，“你會成為一代巨星。”他對我說他認為我是一個卓越的藝人和一個偉大的表演者。他常說“你是最好的。”而我說，“不，你才是最好的。”我記得我第一次走太空步后，弗雷德立刻給我家打來了電話。他在電話里驚叫著，語無倫次。他說他見過的最完美的表演。我說，“噢，千萬別這么說。”他說，“'邁克爾, 你太讓人驚訝了。你是一個了不起的表演家。你是一個了不起的舞蹈家。”我說，“啊，聽到你這么說，我什么獎都不要也值了。”因為我的那場演出獲得了Emmy獎提名，雖然最后沒有獲獎，但沒有關系，因為弗雷德•阿斯泰爾說他喜愛我的表演，這就是我要的獎品。
GG：如果你能與人共事--他是否在世--你會選擇誰呢？
MJ：如果要我選擇我會選查理•卓別林，我萬分地熱愛他。還有，勞倫斯•奧利弗也是個天才，真的。就這兩個人。再加上好萊塢之王，白蘭度。
GG：去年你拍攝了一部音樂錄影《You Rock My World》，馬龍•白蘭度友情出演。和這位大師合作有什么感覺？
GG：你在電影《Men In Black II》客串了一回，拍攝工作好玩嗎？
MJ：《Men In Black》 的拍攝真的很有意思，因為我全新詮釋了自己。
GG：從《Thriller》的音樂錄影就可以清晰地看出你對視覺藝術很感興趣。
MJ：我做任何事我都既喜歡親自執航，或與導演密切合作--我們共同執導共同構想。如果你看了《Ghost》，上面列表標明： 邁克爾·杰克遜 和Stephen King合寫。我倆在電話上寫出了劇本，我和Stephen--他是個不錯的家伙，很令人驚奇--就通過在電話上的交談而寫出了它。
GG：在電影業界你最尊敬誰呢？為什么？
MJ：我熱愛羅伯特•德•尼諾。我想他真是一個戲路廣泛的多面手。他對任何角色都可信手拈來，無論是喜劇人物、牧師、變態殺手、白癡、還是魅力大叔等。當然，我還喜愛所有偉大的舞者。
GG：誰會是你理想的女主角，為什么？
MJ：女演員嗎？（笑）你和我應該一起來演部電影。來，我們一起，我會很喜歡的……
GG：有傳言說你準備去月球真正表演一回太空步。是真的嗎？
MJ：（笑）有真實的成分。那不是謠言。我將會談到的。
GG：你在與保羅·麥卡尼競標購買披頭士的音樂版權的戰役中獲勝。有什么很特別的意味嗎？
MJ：不，我沒有，他也沒有參加所謂的競標。它在被出售，我喜歡所以就買了它，就像買了件藝術品一樣。
GG：談談你對兒童慈善事業的熱心吧，你支持了哪些組織？
MJ：啊，我有一個自己創辦的兒童慈善機構，叫“治愈世界基金會”。無論何時我作一場演唱會或娛樂表演，我都會給出一筆錢給“治愈世界基金會”--你知道有孤兒院、醫院和需要換肺葉或肝臟的孩子，我們會去找到他們，并為手術付費。巡演時，我做多少場演出就會去探望多少所醫院和孤兒院。我們去看望12歲的孩子們時，我們帶去了一箱一箱又一箱的玩具，和大捆的邁克爾·杰克遜海報和隨身用品。他們很喜歡的。
GG：你感到你還想在有生之年取得什么成就？
MJ：我永不自滿。有那么多路要走，有那么多事情要做。我是作了很多，但我想是不夠的，因此我從來不在房間里放任何獎杯。你不會在我的房子里看到我的任何獎杯，我全把它們放進了儲物室。因為如果你沉迷于此，你就會開始覺得，“哦，我已經作到了。”但依然有太多太多的高峰需要我去攀登。
GG：如果你的一個孩子過來對你說，“爸爸，我想作一個流行歌星”，你會給他什么建議？
MJ：我給他們最好的建議是：這是個艱巨的工作，需要好好準備，因為它不是永遠都充滿了快樂。你得練就一張犀牛般耐磨的皮，因為你的星光越大，越容易受到中傷與攻擊。小報很無恥的，你必須要有犀牛皮來對付那些無知的媒體。他們只管賣出報紙，因為壞消息賣得快。他們就只管生搬濫造。如果他們沒搞到什么有價值的東西，他們就信手胡編。我一點也不像小報強加給我的那種形象。一點也不像。他們太瘋狂、太無知了。我常常對歌迷說：“燒掉小報，讓我們把小報堆成一座山付之一炬！”真心的歌迷知道那一切都是垃圾。他們很聰明。
GG：你原來一直都想搞電影嗎？如果你的家庭沒有取得那么卓越的音樂成就，你是否很早以前就會轉行？
GG：你對電影有什么看法?
MJ：我有人們從未聽說過的對電影、運動、舞蹈等的獨到見解。我等不及想讓大家大吃一驚。那就是為什么我無比渴望創辦一家自己的電影制作公司的原因，而現在我很高興我們正在以Neverland Pictures電影公司開展起工作來。我還是新人，但我將表演、創作并琢磨我的作品。
GG：告訴我一點關于你“狼人”電影的創作意念，它和錄影有怎樣的關系？
MJ：我還沒有讀過《Wolfed（狼人）》的劇本呢--它是我們打算作的一部電影，我很興奮。我很高興能和Sammy Lee一起工作。我們合作了不少很棒的電影項目，我真的很興奮。
GG：《狼人》會是第一部電影嗎？
MJ：現在看來，我們的工作日程上把它定為第一部電影。它會很有意思的。我想讓它真能嚇人。Rick Baker打算做所有的視覺特效。他有7座奧斯卡小金人。 Rick現在也很興奮--他做過《美國狼人在倫敦》，并贏得了奧斯卡，但他說，“邁克爾, 那沒什么了不起。”因為和今天他所能做的一切相比，確實是沒有什么了不起的。他做過《Thriller》依然說“那沒什么了不起”，他的潛力和成就將遠無止境。他做了所有艾迪•莫菲的片子，像《Clumps》 and 《Nutty Professor（肥佬教授）》，還有所有《Men In Black》系列的東西。他全都做過。
GG：那么你能告訴我你愿意怎樣被人們銘記嗎？
MJ：我愿意怎樣被人銘記？一個給世界帶來光明的人，有點空想主義。一個為無聲的孩童們代言的聲音，因為我愛他們。我因為孩子們而生活下去。如果沒有他們，我早就認輸了。一個嬰兒，一個兒童--將很令人驚奇。他們是小天才，你知道，他們真的是小天才。
GG：做父親高興嗎?
MJ：那是我最喜愛的事情。我喜歡。我喜歡。我喜歡啊！
GG：前不久我看見你在你女兒熟睡時抱起了她。你就這樣抱著她，我可以看到寫在你臉上的幸福……
MJ：噢，我愛他們。杰克遜家族里有許多小孩。我有很多侄兒侄女。我們是個大家庭！
GG：你和兄弟姐妹的關系怎么樣？
MJ：我愛我的兄弟姐妹們。當我和他們在一起時我們同聲歡笑。他們就像你自己的另一個版本。我們咯咯笑著談憶著美好的往昔。但我們并不能如愿的常在一起。太忙了。我們都在娛樂界工作，我們總有事做。如果我在城里，那么珍妮就出城了。如果我倆都在，那么我的兄弟們又在其他地方。每個人都在奔波忙碌，你知道的。
GG：你是個住家男人嗎？你喜歡和家人一起做些什么？
MJ：你說的是我的小家庭嗎？我的孩子們嗎？我們喜歡就那樣坐在一起，談天說地。每天我都會在家里漫步。我們倚在湖畔，用小石塊在湖中激起漣琦，輕輕閑聊著。
GG：你認為一個人所能感受到的愛的最深沉形式是什么？你感受到了嗎？
MJ：噢，我想這真的是一個觀念問題。我感覺到愛的最深沉形式了嗎？我不知道怎樣是最深沉的……（長長的停頓）有意思的問題……我非常非常愛我的孩子，我總是看著他們的眼睛這樣告訴他們--我想這就是最重要的。
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(感謝ROSEMARY進行的相關整理)
Gold-Magazine (June 1st, 2002)
Michael Jackson is the ‘King of Pop’, the man who made the biggest-selling album in history; a man whose dance routines and tunes have entranced people in every corner of the globe, from Johannesburg to Jakarta , from London to L.A.
But he is also an enigma. A child star with his siblings in the Jackson Five, he comes from an immensely talented family and, as youngest son [Randy is younger ;-)], carved for himself the most successful solo career of all of them. He is one of the few world-famous children who have gone on to become world-famous adults; and now he is reinventing himself again, as a film star.
Despite his fame, despite the fact that he has been performing, creating and improvising almost since he was old enough to walk, Jackson is shy of publicity. He may have hordes of fans and photographers surrounding him whenever he steps out in public, but he is an intensely private man who lives with his family on his fairy-tale Neverland ranch in California . In this rare interview, he talks candidly to Magdalena , the ‘Gold Girl’, about fame, the burden of his childhood stardom, his view on the media, and his future in film.
Magdalena: Do you most see yourself as a musician, an entertainer or an entrepreneur?
Michael: Probably all of the above, because I love entertaining and I always will love entertaining. I love becoming a slave to rhythm. Because dancing is about interpreting the sounds and accompaniments of the orchestra. You know, you become the sound, you become the bass, you become whatever you hear, and you do it bodily. But I try not to get so caught up in it all that you don’t think about your future. So many great entertainers have just been taken in the past, and they ended up lonely, sad and broken. I’ve always said to myself, I never want to be that way and I’m going to try my hardest to learn about the business side, support myself, invest my money, save. Who knows what tomorrow brings? You want to be protected financially so you can support yourself.
Magdalena: Would you like to be remembered as a great entertainer?
Michael: I love movies and I love art — and an architect is an entertainer, the guy who builds a rollercoaster is an entertainer. He knows where to build the slopes, and the big anticipation when you go up… He makes you go, “Oh my God!” when you get to the top before you come down. It’s just the same as structuring a show or a dance.
Magdalena: Does it ever become a burden to be one of the most recognized stars in the world?
Michael: There’s nowhere in the world I can actually go and have privacy. The thing that hurts the most is the fact that your privacy is taken away from you. To use the silly expression, you live in a fishbowl, but it’s true. I do disguises… People know them all, it’s very hard, very hard.
Magdalena: What kind of disguises?
Michael: Fat suits, buck teeth, glasses, afros, prosthetics, make-up jobs, everything. Just to sit in the audience and experience it the way an audience would experience a show; I want to feel how they feel.
Magdalena: Do they find you out?
Michael: Sometimes, yes. In the beginning, no. Then they start looking me in the eyes. I put these things on and then they start looking behind the glasses… Girls are very smart, you know. You can trick a guy quicker than you can trick a girl. Women can just pick it up. They know the way you move your body, the way you walk, the way you gesture. I hear them go, “Look at the way he moves his hand”, or “Look at the way he was walking”, and I think, “Oh no.”
Magdalena: If you were invisible for a day in London , what would you do?
Michael: Oh boy. Who would I like to slap? Let me see [laughs]… I think I’d find one of the tabloid paparazzi and kick his ass, ‘Moonwalk’ style. I’d really like to knock them off one of those little scooters they ride around on, I really would, knock the cameras right out of their hands. They’re so annoying. I’d go for them first, yeah. They drive you nuts. You can’t get away from them. It’s terrible.
Magdalena: Who has inspired you the most professionally, and who do you relate to?
Michael: Probably Walt Disney; because when I was little I grew up in an adult world. I grew up on stage. I grew up in night clubs. When I was seven, eight years old I was in nightclubs. I saw striptease girls take off all their clothes. I saw fights break out. I saw people throw up on each other. I saw adults act like pigs. That’s why to this day I hate clubs. I don’t like going to clubs — I did that already, I’ve been there. That’s why I compensate now for what I didn’t do then. So when you come to my house, you’ll see I have rides, I have a movie theatre, I have animals. I love animals — elephants and giraffes and lions and tigers and bears, all kinds of snakes. I get to do all those wonderful things that I didn’t get to do when I was little, because we didn’t have those things. We didn’t have Christmas. We didn’t have sleepovers. We didn’t have school, we had private school when we were touring. I didn’t go to a state school. We tried it for two weeks and it didn’t work. It was very difficult. It’s hard growing up a celebrity child. Very few make that transition from child star to adult star. It’s very difficult. I relate to Shirley Temple. I met her in San Francisco and I sat at her table and I cried so bad. She said, “What’s wrong Michael?” I said, “I love you. I need to be around you more.” She goes, “You’re one of us, aren’t you?” and I said “Yes, I am.” Somebody else said, “What do you mean?” and she said, “Michael knows what I mean.” And I know exactly what she meant — to have been there as a child star and to have graduated to have succeeded in making that transition to fame as an adult is very difficult. When you’re a child star people don’t want you to grow up. They want you to stay little for ever. They don’t want you to work afterwards. It’s very hard.
Magdalena: Tell me more about your interests in theme parks — what is it about them that interests you?
Michael: My favorite thing about theme parks — and I have a pretty good outlook on it because I’ve traveled the world many times over — is I love seeing people simply come together with their families and have fun. It really does bring them closer together. I go for fun, but I also go to study. I go after hours to most parks because I can’t go in the regular hours. They’re kind of like a ghost town.
Magdalena: I hear you have some ideas for a theme park in Las Vegas ?
Michael: I’ve done many projects in Las Vegas , and what I think I’ve done is I’ve widened the demographic there. Because when I was a little kid — I was no more than eight years old — my brothers and I would go to Las Vegas , and at that time kids weren’t even allowed to walk on a casino floor. So we used to stay up in our rooms, bored, with nothing to do while everyone else gambled. There was only one place for kids in Vegas at the time, called ‘Circus Circus’. It was a hotel and the theme they had there was clowns. So there was a trapeze man and there were chimps doing the little unicycles. When I got older we played Vegas a lot — we performed there many, many times — and I thought about it and I said, “It’s really not fair that there’s nothing here for children,” so I started to conceive a couple of ideas for certain hotel owners. And now it’s like the family-themed vacation kingdom, it really is.
Magdalena: Who are your favorite people?
Michael: I love people who have really contributed to the pleasure and happiness of the planet and mankind, people with light — from Walt Disney to Gandhi to Edison to Martin Luther King. These are people with light, people who really cared about children, bringing families together, and love. That’s what I try to say in my music and in my songs. If you go to one of my concerts, my shows, you will see 200 000 people swaying, holding candles, saying, “We want to heal the world,” and “We love you.” I’ve seen it around the world from Russia to Germany to Poland to Africa to America . We’re all the same. People cry in the same places in the show. They get angry in the same places in the show, they get the pathos in the same places.
Magdalena: Was Fred Astaire your friend?
Michael: Yes. Fred Astaire was my neighbor. I used to see him every day when I was riding my little motorscooter. He always told me, he would always say when I was a little kid, “You’re gonna be a big star.” He told me that he thought I was an incredible entertainer and a great mover. And he always used to say, “You’re the best,” and I’d say, “No, you’re the best.” I remember the first time I did the ‘Moonwalk’. Fred called me at home. He was screaming on the phone, raving. He said it was the best performance he’d ever seen. I said, “Oh, come on.” He said, “Michael, you put them on their ass.You’re a hell of a mover. You’re a hell of a dancer.” I said, “Well, coming from you, I don’t need any awards.” Because I was nominated for an Emmy for that performance, and I didn’t get it, but it didn’t matter to me because Fred Astaire said he loved my performance, and that’s all the award I needed.
Magdalena: If you could work with anyone, alive or dead, who would that be?
Michael: If I could work with anybody it would be Charlie Chaplin, who I love so much. Also, Laurence Oliver was a genius, really.Those two guys, I think. And also the king, Brando.
Magdalena: Last year you put together a short film, ‘You Rock My World’, with the assistance of Marlon Brando. What was it like working with the master?
Michael: Brando is a good friend of mine. He’s very much like me. He doesn’t go many places. He comes to Neverland or he stays in my house in Mulholland Drive , or he goes to Tahiti . His son worked for me for more than 20 years, and his other son was in my class in private school. He’s just a giant. You see, Brando’s smart, because when he works with me he always says, “I know what buttons to push to get emotion from you.” He knows me so well. He knows how to get me ticked off, so he’ll say certain things to get me really geared up. He’s a genius. He’s a king. He’s the last of that generation. He’s a brilliant man, a lovely person. I love him and he’s my good friend.
Magdalena : You had a cameo in ‘Men In Black II’, was that fun to work on?
Michael: The ‘Men In Black’ project really was a lot of fun because I introduced myself as the new guy.
Magdalena: It was obvious from the video of ‘Thriller’ that you have a great interest in the visual arts.
Michael: Everything I do I like either to direct myself, or work closely with the director — we co-direct and come up with the ideas together. If you look at ‘Ghosts’, it says co-written by Michael Jackson and Stephen King. We wrote it on the telephone, Stephen and I — he’s a lovely guy, he’s amazing. We wrote it on the phone, just talking together.
Magdalena: Who are the figures in the movie business you most admire, and why?
Michael: I just love Robert De Niro. I think he’s such a multi-faceted actor. He can play anything from a comedian to a priest to a psychopathic killer to an idiot to a charming uncle to just anything. And of course, any of the great dancers.
Magdalena: Who would be your ideal leading lady, and why?
Michael: An actress? [laughs] You and I should do a film together. Let’s do it, I’d love that…
Magdalena: There was talk of you going to the moon to perform an authentic ‘Moonwalk’ here. Is there any truth in this?
Michael: [laughs] There is some truth in it. It’s not a rumor. I’ll just say that.
Magdalena: You outbid Paul McCartney for the Beatles archive. What was so special about it?
Michael: No, I didn’t, he didn’t bid for it. It was for sale and I liked it and I bought it, like buying a piece of art.
Magdalena: Tell me more about your passion for children’s charities. Which organizations do you support?
Michael: Well, I have a charity for kids that I created myself, called ‘Heal the World’. And whenever I do a concert or anything pertaining to entertainment, I give a certain amount to ‘Heal the World’ — you know orphanages, hospitals, kids who need a lung or a liver, we’ll find it, we’ll pay for the surgery. On tour, I do as many hospitals and orphanages as I do concerts. We go to 12-years-olds and we take boxes and boxes and boxes of toys, a bunch of Michael Jackson posters and paraphernalia. They love it.
Magdalena: How much more do you feel you want to achieve in your life?
Michael: I’m never satisfied. There are so many different avenues and so many different things that I want to do. I’ve done a lot, but I don’t think it’s enough, which is why I don’t put up any awards or anything in my house. You won’t see any awards in my house, I put them all away in storage. Because if you get caught up in that, you start to feel like, “Oh, man, I did it.” There’s so much more, so many more mountains to climb.
Magdalena: If one of your children came to you and said, “Dad, I want to be a pop star,” what’s the best advise you could give them?
Michael: The best advise that I would give them is it’s a lot of hard work, and be prepared, because it’s not all joy all the time. And that you’ve got to have rhinoceros skin, because the bigger the star, the bigger the target. The tabloid press are bastards, and you’ve got to have rhinoceros skin to deal with that kind of ignorance mentality. They do it simply to sell papers, because bad news sell, not good news. They simply make it up. If they don’t have anything, they just make it up. I’m nothing like the way the tabloids have painted me out to be, nothing. Nothing like that. They’re the ones who are crazy. They’re ignorant. I always say to my fans “Let’s have a tabloid burning. Let’s make a big mountain out of tabloids and just burn them.” The real fans who love me know that garbage isn’t true. They know. They’re smart.
Magdalena: Have you always wanted to do film? If your family had not been such successful musicians, would you have turned to it earlier in your life?
Michael: I’ve always wanted to do film, but the tours got in the way. That’s why I want to take several years off just doing film. I’d like to get six great movies behind me, and then I’ll do a little bit of touring, then I’ll do more filming.
Magdalena: What kind of ideas do you have for film?
Michael: I have ideas for film and movement and dance and things that people have never seen. I can’t wait to just surprise people. That’s why I’ve been dying to start a film production company, and I’m very excited that that’s what we’re doing with ‘Neverland Pictures’. I get to just have a clean slate and play and create and sculpt.
Magdalena: Tell me a little bit about the werewolf idea in your films, and how does it relate to video?
Michael: I haven’t read the script yet for ‘Wolfed’ — it’s one of the movies that we’re going to be making and I’m really excited about it. I’m so happy to be working with Sammy Lee. We’re doing some great projects together in film, and I’m really excited.
Magdalena: And ‘Wolfed’ will be the first film?
Michael: As of now, our schedule says that ‘Wolfed’ will be the first film. That’s going to be fun. I want it to be really scary. Rick Baker wants to do all the visual effects. He has seven Academy awards. Rick is very excited about it too — he did ‘American Werewolf in London ’. He won an Oscar, and he said, “Michael, that was nothing.” That’s nothing compared to what he can do today. And he did ‘Thriller’ and he said of that, “It’s nothing.” He can go way beyond that. He did all the Eddie Murphy films, ‘Clumps and Nutty Professor’ and all that ‘Men In Black’ stuff, too. He does all that.
Magdalena: So tell me how you would like to be remembered?
Michael: How would I like to be remembered? As a person who came and brought light to the world, some escapism. Also as the ‘voice for the voiceless children’, because I love them. I’m living for the children. If it weren’t for the kids, I would throw in the towel. A baby, a child — now that’s amazing. They’re little geniuses, you know, little geniuses. They really are.
Magdalena: Do you enjoy being a father?
Michael: It’s my favorite thing. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Magdalena: The other day I saw you pick up your daughter when she was sleeping. You just picked her up, and I could see the joy in your face…
Michael: Oh, I love them. The Jacksons have a lot of kids. I have a lot of nephews and nieces. There’s a lot of us!
Magdalena: What is your relationship with your brothers and sisters?
Michael: I love my brothers and sisters. When I’m with them we laugh. It’s like a different version of yourself. We can just laugh and giggle and talk about old times. We’re not together as much as we’d like to be. We’re all busy. We’re all in show. We’re always doing something. If I’m in town, Janet’s out of town. If we’re both here, my brother’s somewhere else. Everybody’s running around, you know.
Magdalena: Are you a family man? What do you like doing with your family?
Michael: My personal family? My Children? We love just sitting together, talking, shooting the breeze. We sit by the lake. I take them for a walk every day at my house. We sit by the lake and we throw rocks in the water and we just talk.
Magdalena: What do you think is the deepest form of love someone can feel? And have you felt it?
Michael: Wow, I think that’s really a matter of opinion. Have I felt the deepest form of love? I don’t know what would be the deepest… [long pause] and interesting question… [repeats question a few times]. I love my children very, very much, and I always look in their eyes and tell them that — I think that’s the most important thing.
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